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mister60555
indifferent I’m caught between a rock (AT&T) and a hard place (Clear).

Speeds between .25 Mbps and 1.5 Mbps with rare bursts

It looks like quite a few people are having similar issues. My goal here is to log a nauseatingly specific description of the problem, trouble-shooting steps, and the solution -- when it happens. Hopefully, this can become a One Stop Shop to help out the others who come to the Clear Forums with similar problems, so they don’t have to spend the 4 hours on the phone or online chat with tech support that I have. I will continue to update until the problem is solved.

The Symptoms:
~ DL speeds consistently between .25 Mbps and 1.5 Mbps for the last 14 days.
~ In that time, there where 7 days in which I logged short windows of time with speeds within spec -- 3.0 - 6.0 Mbps. Typically, this happened in the evening, between 6:00 pm and 11:00 pm.
~ Modem always has 5 lights.
~ Ping is typical -- between 50 - 90 ms. PingTest.net score of a B with little jitter.
~ UL speeds were consistently as expected, at 1.0 Mbps, but have dropped to around .5 Mbps in the last three days.

“SpeedTest

My Equipment:
~ Motorola WiMax (Wave 2) Clear Modem
~ Netgear wireless G router
~ MacBook Pro running OS 10.6.4
~ MSI Netbook running Windows 7 Professional

My Location:
~ 60555 zip code (Western Chicago suburbs)
~ Approximately .5 miles to Clear antenna. (During the winter, I can see it from the window I have the modem sitting in front of.)
~ Listed as “Best Clear Coverage” on the Clear coverage map

Troubleshooting Attempts:
~ Power cycled modem. (Many times.)
~ Connected computers directly to modem. (Whenever I’m troubleshooting.)
~ Made sure modem is plugged directly into outlet and moved away from other electronics.
~ Had L1 tech “reset my connection with the tower.” (A couple times.)
~ “Optimized” several browsers by deleting cache, cookies, and history. (Safari, Firefox, IE)
~ Ran through the DOS commands in Win7 with the L2 tech, such as clearing the DNS cache.
~ Sent in a Trace Route to L2 tech.
~ Changed IPv6 setting in OSX to “Off,” instead of “Automatic” on advice from L2 tech.
~ Put my modem outside to rule out interference from my window / screens.
~ Took my modem to the school I work at to see if the modem was the problem. Even though I was over 1 mile to the nearest antenna, and in a huge cinderblock building with Low-E windows, a metal roof, and no line-of-sight to the tower, I still pulled speeds of 4.0 Mbps and above for the two hours I was there. (The modem had 3 lights.) I was actually impressed the modem did so well considering the long list of things that impaired the signal.

What Clear Has Done:
~ Opened a trouble ticket with the speed team, which was passed on to the RF team. The RF team (apparently) “updated the software at the tower,” whatever that involves.
~ They closed the ticket as “resolved” without telling me... Needless to say, it was not solved.
~ Opened a new trouble ticket to initiate a tech visit to my house (also known as a “truck roll,” I found out.)
~ Given me a $20 credit on my bill.

So, I’m now awaiting my tech visit, which is scheduled for Tuesday evening (8/24). I think at this point it is reasonably clear (heh) that the problem is not at my location, with my computers, or with my modem. That said, I begrudgingly understand the long list of hoops I have to jump through before Clear starts to think that maybe (just maybe) the problem is with their tower or infrastructure.

... Will update as events unfold... In the meantime, I wish all those in a similar boat Godspeed. (As long as God travels faster than 1.0 Mbps.)
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  • TRoy
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    This is what get 4 $ 50.00 + Tax and stuck with a two year contract


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    Ths is a re Test in 30 min



    Clear need to reimburse their consumers of what they are stealing from us
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  • Zerokul
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    I think that if they deliver 1/10th of the speed advertised, we should pay 1/10th of the monthly fee as well.
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  • ericjohnston
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    Looks like everyone is have trouble. When I called in (for three hours) I finally asked to speak to a supervisor and one rep hung up on me. The other continually told me a supervisor was unavailable and finally when I said I wouldn't answer the same questions over and over again, (and waited 30 minutes on hold) I finally talked to a supervisor who confirmed that my results were poor. He said he would update my file and put in a ticket, then I sat on hold for another 40 minutes, and counting. Yep I'm still on hold right now. If everyone is having this problem then its pretty clear that the service dept is over worked and issues aren't gonna get solved until customer move back to comcast or quest or the corporate higher ups buy more bandwidth.

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  • jmnielsen7
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    I was having major grief for a long time a while ago pretty much all the time. I am not sure what changed. I know at one point clear reset the password on my modem so I assume they did some update. Unsure if it was related. Perhaps a rep could respond to that with some real info and not just the script. It might help some users out. At first I was working in the day and my speeds were great. At night they tended to get bad again. Well the past few days that I have been watching(and I havent been very diligent) Im back to being happy. This is all I ask. Get what I pay for. Right now Im getting speeds like those when I purchased the service. The second image is downloading a linux ISO. This was while watching a youtube video. Youtube still sucks but I think thats because youtube just tends to suck. Id swear the throttle "certain" videos on their end.


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  • mister60555
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    After almost a year of dealing with fluctuating speed and bouts of punishment -- errr, “management” -- I caved in:



    And the speed isn’t what I’m most happy about -- after all, 15 mbps is way more than I need to watch Hulu or Netflix. The best thing Comcast does is tell you up front what your cap is and provide you will a meter to see your usage against that cap. And, for only $5 more per month than a Clear plan, you really can’t go wrong.

    For me, the worst part of the Clear experience was never knowing how much Netflix was too much, never knowing how long the “management” would last, and never being able to talk to anybody in customer service who knew ... well ... anything.

    I want Clear to work. Unfortunately, their board of directors bought into a vision of over-expansion at the expense of current customers, so they cannot use their 21st century technology to supply the users of a 21st century internet. Hopefully, when Clear goes belly-up, their financial backers (Comcast, Sprint, Time Warner, Google) can buy up the infrastructure and use it to supply consumers of the modern internet with a product that works.
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  • Wayne EMPLOYEE
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    Wayne (Official Rep) May 05, 2011 14:58
    bmobini, We are glad you are getting great speeds. If you have any issue, please let us know. We are here to help. Thank you for your post.
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  • kaisho1968
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    These guys at Clear are real crooks! They sell you unlimited access and then limit your speeds. They sold me a wireless hotspot they said up to 5 devices can access the internet on BUT then, with no downloading and only surfing, adding netflix streaming and only surfing they metered me down to 1Mbps speeds....I only have a laptop to surf the internet and read my email.....and netflixed like 3 movies through my new "Roku" box and they killed my access.

    They said, I'm using more than one device and I told them they sold me a wireless hotspot...their only comment is they can do that - its in the contract (which its not)!!!!

    Its a giant Ponzi scheme with respect to their speed management program!!!!! They have NO customer service and are down right deceptive in their practices.....and the FTC and FCC are doing nothing but rewarding these guys! and we want these Fed Agencies to control all aspects of the internet? Crazy
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  • twscox
    Sadly it comes to us to vote with our dollars. I have the service in Utah and I just found out i am being throttled. mostly i stream netflix. I bought and drank clear's poision koolaid on the promise of unlimited internet and cheaper than comcast. The service was great at first, but now sucks. Was told last night that I was a heavy user, but I only stream netflix and surf the net. Was told to turn off my modem and go without internet for 2 days and that their throttle "Might" reset and I would get my speed back. At best I got 1.5 mps speed. right now my speeds are barely acceptable for dialup, but sadly I am paying broadband prices. I am going back to comcast.
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  • floridarealtyusa
    wow! you guys should start reading before you accept any services.

    first thing, i am satisfied with CLEAR service. And yes its just 3 stars because of the Bandwidth issue.

    I am satisfied and not frustrated because i was expecting it before I accepted and activated the service(i read).

    I am aware of it because I read the Terms and Services that pop up on my screen the very first time I plugged my modem to my computer. I spent 10-15 minutes to read and understand the Terms before i accepted it so that in cases like this, I wont be surprised at all.

    all the forums i read about Clear are almost all negative feedback but then it just gave me a smile whenever i read it. Because all of this disputes just fall on the same reason - NOT READING THE TERMS BEFORE ACCEPTING THEM. =)

    if you just made time to read it, you would have decided correctly.
    Because i did. =)
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